tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2144813210603379421.post6150597869286707912..comments2023-03-27T18:20:44.386+11:00Comments on Geek Diva: You want to manage me?Damana Maddenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00506368430609135921noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2144813210603379421.post-17238815695336131012009-07-14T23:53:18.788+10:002009-07-14T23:53:18.788+10:00hehe you know its funny, when I was in Uni and we ...hehe you know its funny, when I was in Uni and we did a group project (it was comp sci), nobody wanted to be the project manager, I ended up doing it.<br />Still ended up doing a bunch of the coding and doco, but still, things must have changed.<br /><br />Agree on your account of good project managers. I've worked with some good ones and some less than mediocre ones.<br />The ones that are truly good, are ones you dont even know are there. They behave more like facilitators than their overlord behind a gantt chart brethren. <br /><br />I honestly dont know how to 'bake' a good project manager. Every good one did hard time in the trenches. The worst were the inexperienced or overly ambitious.Dean Cornishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15794341369794568348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2144813210603379421.post-8261556957296010152009-07-07T20:08:24.550+10:002009-07-07T20:08:24.550+10:00Nice Post.
I agree with you about the desire in m...Nice Post. <br />I agree with you about the desire in many new entries to IT world wanting to be a project manager. <br />To some extent I feel its the fault of the industry over the years, as they have given lot more power to project managers then they should have And Not emphasizing on the role he/she plays in the team. It would have been a lot better if we did not call him a project manager but but "team coach". <br />What i want to stress is that, project management is teams responsibility. Everyone in the team takes some decision to manage the project better at various spheres -- BA/QA/Dev. One person can just recommend based on his/her experience.Ankur Bhatiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02453637824446551523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2144813210603379421.post-75739566579844109622009-07-07T19:56:52.386+10:002009-07-07T19:56:52.386+10:00Firstly, thank you for recognising the value of a ...Firstly, thank you for recognising the value of a good project manager. Hopefully one day if we get to work together, you can put me in the same bucket as your ‘ego wrangler’.<br /><br />I think it's important that I respond here, as I started my career in an entry-level project management role, as a graduate with no experience other than casual and part time work.<br /><br />In this role I shadowed brilliant, experienced project managers, while playing a project admin kind of role. This progressed to taking on responsibility for parts of a large project and then to taking on small projects ... etc, etc, etc, until I'm where I am today.<br /><br />I get concerned when I hear people talk about project management as role to be promoted into, as I feel it is a completely separate discipline. For example, I believe a step from BA or Dev to PM is a step sideways in the same way as a step from QA to BA or Dev. As such I believe there should be a career path for project management to support and foster growth from entry level onwards. I often wish the word "manager" was not included in the title, because I think it has a lot to do with this misconception.<br /><br />I agree with you, that to be a brilliant and successful project manager does take a lot of experience, in all the ways you describe. I also feel that to be a brilliant and successful "insert any role here" also takes a lot of experience, also in the same way you describe.<br /><br />I think my larger concern would be with why these grads want to go straight into project management. Is it because they believe the aforementioned misconception? Or is it because they think they have an affinity towards the role itself? I’m also unsure if appropriate entry-level roles with the right kind of support exist in project management anymore.<br /><br />I’m glad the opportunity existed for me to enter project management in that way. I quite like what I do. And I think I’m kinda good at it ☺Angehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12950905901834730865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2144813210603379421.post-74362436353337561552009-07-07T14:21:33.558+10:002009-07-07T14:21:33.558+10:00Agree with you. And what drives me crazy (and sad ...Agree with you. And what drives me crazy (and sad meanwhile) is that these "new wave" of project managers believes in such things as calling people resources. They just didn't have the necessary experience or maybe the sensibility to notice that project management is more about how to deal with people instead of how to deal with deadlines and pressure. If people goes well, the deadlines will consequently go well too.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16246044146095550135noreply@blogger.com